In a fascinating video both Trevor Grassi, Dan Willis and Veda Austin talked about crystals, water and consciousness and all kinds of related topics. One of them was about the effect that Cleve Backster had on Marcel Vogel.
Here’s a part from that interview where Dan explains how Backster changed Marcel Vogel’s life (push back on browser after watching video):
MORE DETAILS FROM THE WEBSITE
On Dan’s Marcelvogel website (3) you can find a more elaborate story on this. Here’s a part of that explanation:
“In 1969 Marcel Vogel gave a course in creativity for engineers at IBM. It was at this time that he read an article in Argosy magazine entitled “Do Plants Have Emotions?” about the work of polygraph expert Cleve Backster into the responsiveness of plants to human interaction. Despite initial rejection of the concept of human-plant communication, he decided to explore these strange claims.
He was able to duplicate the Backster effect of using plants as transducers for bio-energetic fields that the human mind releases, demonstrating that plants respond to thought. He used split leaf philodendrons connected to a Wheatstone Bridge that would compare a known resistance to an unknown resistance. He learned that when he released his breath slowly there was virtually no response from the plant.
When he pulsed his breath through the nostrils, as he held a thought in mind, the plant would respond dramatically. It was also found that these fields, linked to the action of breath and thought, do not have a significant time domain to them.
The responsiveness of the plants to thought was also the same whether eight inches away, eight feet, or eight thousand miles, as he proved from Prague, Czechoslovakia to his laboratory in San Jose where he was able to affect the plant hooked up to the recorder! Based on the results of the experiments the inverse square law does not apply to thought. Marcel said that squiggle on the script chart recorder changed his life. This was the beginning of Marcel’s transformation from being a purely rational scientist to becoming a mystical scientist.
PLANTS RESPONDING TO THOUGHTS
Basically it was found that plants respond more to the thought of being cut, burned, or torn than to the actual act. He discovered that if he tore a leaf from one plant a second plant would respond, but only if he was paying attention to it. The plants seemed to be mirroring his own mental responses. He concluded that the plants were acting like batteries, storing the energy of his thoughts and intentions. He said of these experiments: “I learned that there is energy connected with thought. Thought can be pulsed and the energy connected with it becomes coherent and has a laser-like power.
THE ROLE OF LOVE
Marcel discovered that the greatest cohering agent is love. This, of course, set him apart from his fellow scientists. At a time when many still don’t acknowledge that an observer affects what they are observing, the notion of love was a totally unscientific idea. Even when cloaked in the garb of a term like resonance it was unacceptable. To Marcel, love was (and is) a pure force. Certainly we experience it as an emotion, but this is our experience of something that is beyond emotion. He likened it to gravity, an attracting and cohering force present at every level of existence. Without this relationship an important aspect of scientific investigation is missing, preventing us from discovering and exploring the more, perhaps most, subtle aspects of life.
ON SCIENTISTS
This is one reason why certain scientific investigations in the area of subtle energies cannot be readily replicated. It is not always a matter of scientific protocol, but a matter of relationship. Unfortunately many scientists would consider this to be some kind of inessential and perhaps bothersome epiphenomena. Although such individuals are scientists, to Marcel, they were technicians attempting to prove what they already thought was true. The true scientist is one who attempts to discover with childlike curiosity. Too often we, all of us, only want to confirm what we already believe.
FOOTNOTES
(1) Lost science of WATER & CRYSTAL: Inter-dimensional Bridges to SOURCE, With Dan Willis & Veda Austin – You can find an elaborate analysis of this video in the GA Study Group (2)
(2) Trevor Grassi Thread in Telegram group GA Study Group
(3) How this research all started with the squiggle that changed his life
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